TheBiglebowski(Aka Morg)
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« on: March 06, 2008, 09:25:28 PM » |
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Forward Note, Borrows from the ideas of Metternich to a big extent. Brownie points to his imperial majesty. Also, considering this is theoretical, I thought each doctrine should come with certain units that can be built when that doctrine is chosen. IE, if you choose the Russian War industry option , than you'll get access to the Katyusha rocket launcher, without it being a power that you need to purchase. Also, I wanted each doctrine to get a distinctive artillery option and they are : Mortar Attack, Katyusha Rocket Barrage, Artillery bombardment
The Great Patriotic War: Makes Home Guard Brigades available for construction as cheap labor (Essentially untrained civilians called in to build...STUFF)
Left Side: Partisan Support
#1. Supply Cut: Russian Partisans swoop in to disable a territory , making it and all territories using it as a supply line not functional for 45 seconds.-200 MP 50 Ammunition-1 XP Points-2 minute recharge
#2. Partisan Ambush : A 6 man squad of Partisans armed with Hunting Rifles and Sub Machine Guns emerge from a building of choice. Stealthed when still and can throw a pair of molotov cocktails for 35 Ammunition-425 MP 75 Ammunition-2 XP points
#3. Mortar Attack: A Targeted Area can be chosen and 3 partisan mortar squads will appear in a chosen direction (Like Air strikes) and bombard it for one minute with an extreme mortar volley. After the attack the mortar squad's will disappear-450 MP 150 Ammunition-2 XP Points
Right Side:Propaganda Support #1. Not one step backwards (Stoffers title): A Machine gun bunker appears on the flag of the targeted territory making it twice as long to capture the territory, 50% increase in resource production, and all units in the territory gain a defensive bonus. The Machine gun is equivalent to a standard field MG (faces direction of your choice)-200 MP 125 Ammunition-1 XP Point
#2. Heart of Iron: The effect of a Commissar's on the field is increased 2 fold permanently -2 XP Points
#3. Revolutionary Fervor: All Infantry troops gain a speed and offensive boost after killing a enemy infantry member. The affect is only 10%, but can be repeated 5 times for each infantryman killed within 35 seconds, for a maximum of +50% speed and offense. Affects units for 3 minutes, all affected troops are donated with a red hammer and sickle underneath. -350 MP,250 Ammunition-3 XP Points
The Great Russian War Industry Makes Katyusha rocket Launchers available.
Left Side:Production
#1.To the front!: Freshly created units have a speed increase of 35% for a 1 minute period after being produced.-2 XP Points
#2. Factory Overhauls: For a 1:30 Second period after activation, Vehicles take 50% less time to produce.-300 Ammunition per cast, 2 XP Points
#3. Mass conscription: For a 2 minute period, a pair of Russian infantry units appear at your base every 30 seconds.-500 MP, 3 XP Points
Right Side:Military development
#1. T-34/85: All T-34 tanks are upgraded with a 85 MM gun. Greater damage versus armor.-1 XP Point
#2. Katyusha Rocket Barrage: A heavy 10 second barrage of Katyusha Rockets is unleashed on the targeted area.-350 Ammunition, 3 XP points
#3. IS-2 Tank: You probably already know, a heavy IS-2 tank is called in.-5 XP Points, 1000 MP
The Great Rebounding Red Army Makes T-34/76's, and KS-1's 25% cheaper.
Advanced Infantry tactics
#1. Active Camo: All Russian Infantry Units except AT teams, Crews, and Engineers(Of any sort) are stealthed when still. Can toggle hold Fire on or off.-2 XP Points
#2. Dig In (Metternichs title): Russian Infantry can now build defenses.-2 XP Points.
#3. Artillery barrage: You know, Heavy Barrage, 300 Ammunition,-3 XP Points
Rebounding Red Army
#1. For the Motherland(Stoffers title): Units in targeted area recieve a 50% boost to offense , and Defense, for 1 minute.-1 XP Point, 150 ammunition
#2. Hardened Tankers( Metternichs title): All new vehicles built are at veterancy rank 2.- 2 XP Points
#3. Siberian Troops: A group of 2 Elite Infantry squads, a T-34/76, and a pair of armored cars are called into the battle field. They are all at veterancy rank 2, and move 25% faster than average units. -4 XP Points, 1500 MP.
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Metternich
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2008, 12:15:22 AM » |
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Nice. 20 seconds is a little extreme for the katyushka barrage, but other than that, I like it. The partisan and mass conscription abilities especially. It would really give the russian infantry a place, since they will pretty rapidly be replaced by Red Army infantry. (I am assuming this is building off of my faction I posted earlier)
One question though, what is a powerpoint?
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TheBiglebowski(Aka Morg)
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2008, 01:35:08 PM » |
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Oh, is it XP points that you get access to stuff with? I'm used to calling them power points from BFME 2, I'll edit that
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2008, 04:27:57 PM » |
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lol, I knew what you meant, I was just joking with you.
The big numbers that you use to get new abilities from the tree are called CP (command points). The green gibs that float up when yo kill something are called experience points, or xp. Those contribute to the CP.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 03:33:33 PM » |
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I really like the new doctrines, the one problem i have is that the PARTISANS DID NOT EXIST ON THE EASTERN FRONT, with the exception of Stalingrad, Leningrad, etc., However those new Doctrine ideas seem revolutionary(get it Bolsheviks). Except the 1 CP insta scorched earth, that seems like an automatic early game winner, i mean you just run a scout car to some vital MP point, or their fuel/ammo point and its Game Over.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 03:39:55 PM » |
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Partisans did play a large role on the eastern front.
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TheBiglebowski(Aka Morg)
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 04:46:24 PM » |
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Admittedly, you didn't have Partisans working directly with Russian forces at the front, but this is an RTS game which focuses on a microcosm of the whole faction in a strategic sense, IE, you can command heavy tank units or airborne troops if you wanna. however, Coleps right about the scorched Earth thing, I'm gonna make it so the effect only last 45 seconds and it has a 2 minute recharge.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2008, 07:52:07 AM » |
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Alot of good ideas there  What is that guy talking about lol? There were 10's if not 100 of thosounds of partisans on the Eastern Front, they acted independantly or later on under control of the STAVKA.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2008, 03:03:47 PM » |
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Yeah, colep is blinded by his own self-loathing of Ukrainians and everything slavic.
We basically ignore most of what he posts.
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MajorStoffer
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2008, 05:11:30 PM » |
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hell, I can name a good half dozen partisan brigadiers (leaders) of the top of my head on the eastern front. Hell, ever hear of the Forest Republic? A couple thousand well armed and determined partisans operating quite literally in the woods around Pskov, kept the Wehrmacht rather pre-occupied there. And then there was the Polish Home Army (yeah yeah, I know, pollacks and all, but they did blow up a few german convoys here and there) and then Tito's Anti-Fascist Council of Liberation in Yugoslavia. Essentially, eastern europeans and Germans didn't get along all that well. But what do you expect when a people are invaded by a group who would like to exterminate them all and believe in unflinching superiority of themselves.
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